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The Photo Show with Michael Chovan-Dalton. A podcast about photographers.

"….the fact is most of how we understand life…we do in essentially narrative terms and the moment that you make a photograph you step outside of that. There's no before, there's no after, there's no story, there's only a set of…quite trivial facts that you can look at that imply all sorts of things."

Leo Rubinfien believes in working carefully and methodically. He thinks of his photographs as being part of and describing a large global community. Photographs will change in meaning over time and they will change in meaning as more photographs are made and put next to each other. This idea that the resulting body of work is greater than any one moment or person gives him a sense of freedom to travel and photograph at his own pace. Leo was once conflicted about being thought of as a writer as well as a photographer but now he has embraced both aspects of his life, which is great for the rest of us because he has written some of the great essays on photography and photographers and has put together some amazing retrospectives as well.



Michael, Leo, & Kai