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The Photo Show with Michael Chovan-Dalton. A podcast about photographers.


“Humble yourself, and let’s talk about just how much you get rejected.”

Jared Thorne skypes in from his new home and new photo teaching job at Ohio State University at Columbus to talk about his experiences as a photographer and his desire to both understand and challenge preconceived notions of Black identity. His investigation (and a girlfriend) will take him to South Africa where he explores the “myth of harmony” since the end of Apartheid.

Check out his work at

Some links to references mentioned in the show:

James Nacthwey:

Ernest Cole:

Documentary - Concerning Violence:

David Goldblatt:

Dineo Seshee Bopape:


Hosts: Michael Chovan-Dalton and Kai McBride

Jared, Michael, & Kai